I'm curious to see the improvements in the post game this year.
The reviewers who played the pre-release build have raved about the improvements.
Still can't use the classic teams online, though. I guess the NBA Today feature will be dark with the lockout, too.
Downloaded it this morning. I'm just going to have to force myself to learn the controls in this game. I think I'm missing out on a great game because I've never fully learned the control scheme.
It's about as complicated as a flight simulator to use all of the moves.
I made the mistake of playing the demo a bunch of times tonight and I'm starting to learn a lot of the moves - even post moves. I really don't want to spend any more money on games right now, but I'm really starting to enjoy this one.
Be strong; there will be some good deals on this game around black friday, especially with no NBA season in sight.
I'm trying, but it's so hard.
Here's a link for the extended manuals (all platforms) online:
NBA 2K12 Manual (http://www.2ksports.com/manual/nba2k12/)
My old college buddy and NBA 2K Dreamcast enthusiast is about to take ownership of a PS3, so I think I'm going to pick this one up for Sony's system during the Toys R Us sale this week.
How's the historical stuff laid out this time? Do they have full teams this time, or is it still the main 5-7 guys with the rest filled out by fictional players?
The Teams:
1992-93 Bulls: B.J. Armstrong, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, Scott Williams, John Paxson, Rodney McCray, Stacey King, Will Perdue, Ed Nealy
1992-93 Hornets: Muggsy Bogues, Kendall Gill, David Wingate, Larry Johnson, Alonzo Mourning, Dell Curry, Johnny Newman, Kenny Gattison, Tony Bennett, Sidney Green, Kevin Lynch
1990-91 Lakers: Magic Johnson, Byron Scott, James Worthy, Sam Perkins, Vlade Divac, A.C. Green, Larry Drew, Mychal Thompson, Elden Campbell
1990-91 Trail Blazers: Terry Porter, Clyde Drexler, Jerome Kersey, Buck Williams, Kevin Duckworth, Cliff Robinson, Danny Ainge, Mark Bryant, Drazen Petrovic
1985-86 Celtics: Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Bill Walton, Jerry Sichting, Scott Wedman, Sam Vincent
1985-86 Hawks: Doc Rivers, Randy Wittman, Dominique Wilkins, Kevin Willis, Tree Rollins, Cliff Levingston, Eddie Johnson, Jon Koncak, Spud Webb, Antoine Carr, Scott Hasting
1986-87 Lakers: Magic Johnson, Byron Scott, James Worthy, A.C. Green, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Cooper, Kurt Rambis, Billy Thompson, Mychal Thompson, Frank Brickowski
1985-86 Celtics: Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Bill Walton, Jerry Sichting, Scott Wedman, Sam Vincent
1984-85 76ers: Maurice Cheeks, Clint Richardson, Julius Erving, Bobby Jones, Moses Malone, Clemon Johnson, George Johnson
1984-85 Bucks: Craig Hodges, Sidney Moncrief, Paul Pressey, Terry Cummings, Alton Lister, Mike Dunleavy, Ricky Pierce, Paul Mokeski, Randy Breuer, Charles Davis
1964-65 Celtics: K.C. Jones, Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Tom Sanders, Bill Russell, Tom Heinsohn, Larry Siegfried, John Thompson, Mel Counts
1964-65 Lakers: Jerry West, Dick Barnett, Elgin Baylor, Rudy Larusso, Leroy Ellis, Jim King, Darrall Imhoff, Walt Hazzard, Don Nelson
1970-71 Lakers: Jerry West, Gail Goodrich, Keith Erickson, Elgin Baylor, Wilt Chamberlain, Jim McMillian, Willie McCarter, Rick Roberson
1970-71 Hawks: Walt Hazzard, Pete Maravich, Lou Hudson, Bill Bridges, Walt Bellamy, Jim Davis, Jerry Chambers, Len Chappell
1988-89 Pistons: Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Mark Aguirre, Rick Mahorn, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, Vinnie Johnson, James Edwards, John Salley, Darryl Dawkins
1988-89 Bulls: John Paxson, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, Sam Vincent, Brad Sellers, Craig Hodges, Dave Corzine, Charles Davis, Will Perdue
1993-94 Rockets: Kenny Smith, Vernon Maxwell, Robert Horry, Otis Thorpe, Hakeem Olajuwon, Mario Elie, Sam Cassell, Scott Brooks, Matt Bullard
1993-94 Nuggets: Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, Bryant Stith, Reggie Williams, Rodney Rogers, Dikembe Mutombo, Robert Pack, Tom Hammonds
1970-71 Bucks: Oscar Robertson, Jon McGlocklin, Bob Dandridge, Greg Smith, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Lew Alcindor), Bob Boozer, Lucius Allen, Dick Cunningham
1970-71 Lakers: Jerry West, Gail Goodrich, Keith Erickson, Elgin Baylor, Wilt Chamberlain, Jim McMillian, Willie McCarter, Rick Roberson
1997-98 Jazz: John Stockton, Jeff Hornacek, Adam Keefe, Karl Malone, Greg Foster, Byron Russell, Greg Ostertag, Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, Antoine Carr
1997-98 Spurs: Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro, Sean Elliott, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Jaren Jackson, Chuck Person, Will Perdue, Monty Williams
1995-96 Bulls: Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Luc Longley, Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, Dickey Simpkins, Jud Buechler, John Salley, James Edwards
1995-96 Sonics: Gary Payton, Hersey Hawkins, Detlef Schrempf, Shawn Kemp, Ervin Johnson, Sam Perkins, Vincent Askew, Nate McMillan, Frank Brickowski, David Wingate
1994-95 Knicks: Derek Harper, John Starks, Charles Oakley, Patrick Ewing, Anthony Mason, Hubert Davis, Anthony Bonner, Greg Anthony, Monty Williams, Herb Williams, Doug Christie
1994-95 Magic: Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, Donald Royal, Horace Grant, Shaquille O’Neal, Dennis Scott, Brian Shaw, Anthony Bowie, Jeff Turner, Tree Rollins
1971-72 Lakers: Jerry West, Gail Goodrich, Jim McMillian, Leroy Ellis, Wilt Chamberlain, Flynn Robinson, Keith Erickson, Elgin Baylor
1971-72 Knicks: Walt Frazier, Dick Barnett, Bill Bradley, Dave DeBusschere, Jerry Lucas, Phil Jackson, Earl Monroe, Willis Reed, Luther Rackley
1997-98 Jazz: John Stockton, Jeff Hornacek, Adam Keefe, Karl Malone, Greg Foster, Byron Russell, Greg Ostertag, Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, Antoine Carr
1997-98 Lakers: Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, Eddie Jones, Robert Horry, Shaquille O’Neal, Elden Campbell, Corie Blount, Jon Barry
Hidden Teams:
1976-77 76ers: Henry Bibby, Doug Collins, Julius Erving, George McGinnis, Darryl Dawkins, World B. Free, Steve Mix, Harvey Catchings, Mike Dunleavy, Joe Bryant
1989-90 Cavs: Mark Price, Craig Ehlo, Larry Nance, John Williams, Brad Daugherty, Steve Kerr, Reggie Williams, Tree Rollins, Paul Mokeski
1985-86 Bulls: Kyle Macy, Michael Jordan, Orlando Woolridge, Sidney Green, Charles Oakley, George Gervin, Dave Corzine, John Paxson, Rod Higgins
1990-91 Bulls: John Paxson, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, B.J. Armstrong, Stacey King, Will Perdue, Cliff Levingston, Craig Hodges, Scott Williams
1997-98 Bulls: Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Luc Longley, Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, Jud Buechler, Dickey Simpkins
*1990-91 Warriors: Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, Tom Tolbert, Alton Lister, Rod Higgins, Sarunas Marciulionis, Mario Elie, Paul Mokeski, Vincent Askew
*2001-02 Kings: Mike Bibby, Doug Christie, Peja Stojakovic, Chris Webber, Vlade Divac, Bobby Jackson, Hedo Turkoglu, Scot Pollard, Gerald Wallace, Lawrence Funderburke
Source (http://nba-2k.com/nba-2k12-all-22-classic-teams-in-greatest-mode/)
I'm officially addicted to the demo and can't wait to play with my 94-95 Knicks. Hopefully you can use the legendary teams in "Play Now" mode.
I have no will-power anymore. I just ordered a copy from Amazon for $47.
Absolutely loving this game now that I'm learning the controls. The passing is a little off, especially in the paint, but hopefully that's improved with a patch.
Loving it even more now that I unlocked the 94-95 Knicks. Playing as that team brought back so many memories of a time when I loved basketball.
Interesting article on NKA 2K12's online issues: Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5854423/)
NBA 2K12 Patch 1.03 has been released for the
PS3. (The XBOX360 patch is coming soon).
Here are the official patch notes:
GAMEPLAY
- On-dribbler steal success rates have been tuned down.
- Tuned accuracy of directional passing in order to more reliably pass to the intended target.
- Improved help defense, specifically for rotations on pick-and-roll situations.
- Defensive tuning on 3PT shots to reduce the success of contested threes.
- Addressed an issue on drives to the basket where the help defender wouldn’t fully engage in the double team
ONLINE
- Several matchmaking optimizations have been made in order to help users get into games quicker. This will reduce the amount of time the “Searching For Opponent…†screen is displayed for.
- Addressed a number of network errors that would cause games to end prematurely.
- Addressed an issue in Team-Up where certain conditions would lead to a player standing idle for prolonged periods of time.
- Corrected a Win/Loss streak tracking issue such that the “Back to Back to Back†achievement/trophy will now unlock at the proper time.
Source: 2KSports Forum (https://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315972)
I'm glad they tuned the pass accuracy as that was one of my biggest complaints with the game. I was hoping the patch would be released this morning for the Xbox 360, but no luck so far.
This stuff is laughable;http://www.pastapadre.com/2011/11/17/first-videos-of-nba-2k12-legends-showcase-dlc-in-action#more-50794 (http://www.pastapadre.com/2011/11/17/first-videos-of-nba-2k12-legends-showcase-dlc-in-action#more-50794)
Why would they make it look so awful?
That is pretty bad. I don't really care about the DLC though because the regular game is monopolizing what little game time I have lately. I've had the game for a few weeks now and still have the urge to play it everyday.
Quote from: Jason on November 17, 2011 @ 07:08:31 PM
That is pretty bad. I don't really care about the DLC though because the regular game is monopolizing what little game time I have lately. I've had the game for a few weeks now and still have the urge to play it everyday.
Actually, I kinda like the way it looks after looking at the videos:
NBA 2K12 DLC halfcourt Gameplay Video (PS3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VirdGdZT6Cs#ws)
NBA 2k12 full court Gameplay Video (PS3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8wf_y-zFgU#ws)
NBA 2K12 DLC 21 Gameplay Video (PS3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwxUnThQTEs#ws)
Roster updates and patch info: Kotaku.com (http://kotaku.com/5864826/the-lockouts-end-brings-peace-to-nba-2ks-holiday-season)
Roster updates will come more frequently than they have in the past, Boenisch said, accounting for both the influx of rookie players and any changes in free agency or pre-season trades, which began on Wednesday. Instead of waiting until the final day before the regular season tip-off, Boenisch said the game will push roster updates as frequently as possible over the next three weeks. That kind of update comes totally through the 2K Sports server and isn't subject to the kind of review Microsoft or Sony has for a game patch or title update. A patch still is coming before Dec. 25, Boenisch said, but he held off on committing to a specific date.
Apparently the patch is out in Europe. There's a chance it may be available here this week:
Ronnie2K via Twitter:
Either way, that should tell you that it's very close. I couldn't see it slipping past this week but I did say 10-14 days Thursday.
Link (https://twitter.com/#%21/Ronnie2K/status/146402825109372928)
Ronnie2K via Twitter:
Patch is greenlit for both consoles (US/Intl). Notes and release time to be announced around 3 PM PST (approximately an hour).
The NBA 2K12 patch 1.04 will arrive within the next 24 hours, for 360 and PlayStation 3 consoles.
Below are the full details for NBA 2K12 Patch v1.04 with NBA 2K12 iOS patch notes, at the bottom.
ONLINE
- Fixed an issue that would cause large-user Team-Up games to hang at halftime if all users watched the halftime show in-full.
- Addressed an issue that would lead to a disconnect in subsequent games when one or more users modified their playbook for the current game.
- A number of Association: Online optimizations were made to greatly minimize disconnects.
- Additionally, general optimization improvements were made in order to improve the overall online experience.
GENERAL
- The ‘Back to Back to Back’ and ‘My All-Star’ trophies/achievements should now unlock under the proper conditions.
- Previously unlocked NBA’s Greatest games and ‘Gift with Purchase’ Kings/Warriors teams will now remain unlocked after playing and exiting the Association/My Player game modes.
- Fixed an issue where the roster would become corrupt when attempting to enter the ‘Legends Showcase’ with unsaved roster changes.
- Fixed a rare issue that would cause the game to hang when attempting to skip the pre-game presentation in Season and Playoff modes.
- Corrected an issue where players could become duplicated after editing a Created Team.
- “PIPPEN†dunk package has been updated so that it can be re-assigned to Pippen when switched off of him.
- Addressed issue where Created Players are assigned Cold Zones for all shot locations. This change applies for all generated players in Association/My Player modes as well.
- The Adidas Zig Pro Future and ZigEncore shoes should now have the correct shoe image associated with them.
GAMEPLAY
- Increased the velocity of lob passes into the post so they are less vulnerable to tips and steals.
- Reduced steal success when the defender attempts a steal from behind the ballhandler.
- Tuned player lunges on steal attempts such that they don’t cover an unrealistic amount of ground.
- Tuned AI passes from the wing down into the post. The AI is now smarter during this situation, specifically where the perimeter defender is sagging off the ballhandler in anticipation of this pass.
- Corrected an issue where during online gameplay, a shot ball would ‘re-launch’ even after it had been blocked.
- Tuned AI playcalling during late-game situations so that they initiate plays faster.
- Fixed an issue where the CPU ballhandler would take too long to pass (or in some cases, not pass the ball at all) when running a play in My Player.
- Addressed an issue where the user would inadvertently commit an intentional foul with a defender when attempting to contest a shot with his hands up.
- Tuned animation selection that would cause a player to lose forward momentum when attempting a Swat Block.
- Addressed a specific case where attempting a pass fake would cause the pass to be thrown.
- 8-second violations will no longer be called when the ball is poked loose and enters the backcourt.
- Training Camp: Triple Threat drill score requirements lowered in order to make it a little easier to complete the drill.
- Legends Showcase: Fixed a hang that would occur when the AI would recover a loose ball by diving for the ball and then sitting idle with it.
- Legends Showcase: Addressed a case where players who did not meet the requirements were able to throw a flashy pass.
MY PLAYER
- Corrected an issue where the game would hang after winning the NBA Finals in My Player mode.
- Trading logic has been greatly improved in this mode. In particular, your team’s GM will no longer overhaul the roster once you join the team.
- Your team’s GM will now do a better job of acquiring one of your recommended players when he comes to you asking for potential trade targets. Be careful what you ask for!
- Fixed an issue where both teams in a game would be using the wrong playbooks on occasion.
- A few select season-long milestones (e.g. Shoot 85% or better from the free throw line) should now properly unlock when the prerequisite conditions are met.
- The camera should now properly follow the action in your Signature Shoe Commercial.
THE ASSOCIATION
- A number of trade logic improvements have been made for this experience (these apply to Association: Online as well).
- Addressed the CPU lineup building / player role allocation such that players no longer become unnecessarily upset with the direction of their respective teams.
- New coaching staff is now generated when you get many years into the mode. This will result in sufficiently skilled coaches available to be hired.
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NBA2K12 iOS Patch Notes__________________________________________________
Graphics
- Added dynamic lighting on players (iPhone 4S and iPad 2).
- Improved lighting effects around the arena and on the crowd (iPhone 4S and iPad 2).
- Improved player heads during replay and cut scenes.
- Added more variety to the coach heads.
- Increased number of bench players seen on the court during gameplay.
- Fixed various graphical bugs throughout gameplay.
iCloud
- Added iCloud support for saving Settings, Season, and Playoffs.
One-Finger Controls
- Players on your team will begin to advance the ball automatically after a rebound
- Players on your team will be more likely to drive, pump fake, post-up, and perform other actions.
- Fast breaks are improved and will occur more frequently.
- Better responsiveness in general.
Roster Updates
- Added support for roster updates. A full roster update will be coming soon!
Other
- Made lower Rookie and Pro difficulty levels slightly easier.
- Fixed some commentary bugs.
- Added a few player portraits that were missing.
Source - NBA 2K12 Game Update Patch v1.04 -- Patch Notes (http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150419931227267)
A great game becomes even better....very happy with the patch so far.